places that have already been through "collapse"
Submitted by bbbleaver on Fri, 2007-11-02 21:15.
new minds | Peak Oil | Sustainability | Chit Chat | Seattle
this is from ran prieur's forum and it's really interesting... cuba went through it's peak oil period already inthe 90's and "bounced back" nicely. the link below will take you to the discussion which includes a couple of resources and video of this transition.
if you think things will be horrible, think again. it's a slow grinding halt and that's encouraging! right?
http://p208.ezboard.com/The-Power-of-Community/fdropout50394frm2.showMes...
bbb
mother culture
Submitted by bbbleaver on Sat, 2007-11-03 15:21.
"we must give up everything of value..., our cars, our rights as individuals, our money, our individuality, our lives,... it's really, really going to suck, and it's going to hurt, it's about depriving ourselves of all that we love, it's going to be so hard..." - MC
if there is no petrol what will you do? if there is no running water what will you do? if there is no electricity what will you do?
cubans, are embued with the same, the very SAME STORY, that we americans have boiling beneath our skin. and in the face of change, change that is brought to the door step of their homes were able to do what no one expected... they changed! their very way of life, in some small way but change nonetheless.
if something is not available, people of anysort will look to other options. THIS INCLUDES AND IS NOT LIMITED TO HUMAN PEOPLE.
trust not those others. it doesn't matter what everyone else will do... WHAT WILL YOU DO?
bbb
Agreed
Submitted by William on Sat, 2007-11-03 16:25.
I generally agree with you, but on some days I feel more cynical than usual. I mostly worry about the kinds of options people will take to get the things they need. People could make a really big mess. I do what I can to lessen that possibility in my area, but I cannot affect much, and it drains me a lot.
I feel happy when I have enough food, some shelter, and good companionship. Anything else doesn't matter. I will do what I must to get those things. Life will, for certain, be interesting which is always a plus.
Interesting concept
Submitted by Tony on Sat, 2007-11-03 16:53.
Mother Culture as the one who is whispering that change is hard, impossible.
So any time any one says it's going to suck, be impossible, it's the voice of Mother Culture bringing them back down out of idea land? That's a pretty good concept. It makes sense, seeing as how fear is what keeps people inside the system to begin with. And those who fear change, obviously arent living it, so it's a pretty reinforcive loop
LOW TECH INNOVATIONS
Submitted by bbbleaver on Sat, 2007-11-03 15:33.
TED TALKS - GO TO THIS LINK AND WATCH THIS VIDEO AND THEN TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK... NOT ONLY WILL THIS SHATTER THE ASSUMPTIONS AND MYTHS OF "WITHOUT PETRO WE CAN'T LIVE..." BUT WILL GIVE INSIGHT TO THE TRUE GENIUS OF BEING HUMAN.
Amy Smith: Simple designs that could save millions of childrens' lives About this Talk
Fumes from indoor cooking fires kill more than 2 million children a year in the developing world. MIT engineer Amy Smith details an exciting but simple solution: a tool for converting farm waste into cleaner-burning fuel. Plain-spoken and passionate, Smith talks about some other tools she and her students are creating, including an incubator that stays warm without electricity and a grain mill that frees women from hours of grinding every day. These are basic tools with world-changing results.
About Amy Smith
Amy Smith designs cheap, practical fixes for tough problems in developing countries. Among her many accomplishments, the MIT engineer received a MacArthur "genius" grant in 2004 and was the first woman to win the Lemelson-MIT Prize for turning her ideas into inventions. Read full bio »
bbb
Depends
Are you between the gears?
More seriously, this will be a very painful transition for many people. For certain, it is surmountable, but some days I doubt America's will to make the changes necessary, even in the face of death.