"I don't know why we would expect a different outcome pursuing the exact same policy that got us into this fix in the first place."

I haven't seen you guys talk about horizontal evolution a lot and thought this article was very informative!

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527441.500-horizontal-and-vertical-the-evolution-of-evolution.html?full=true&print=true

Hey all,

Any thoughts on this quote or article?

"Americans by culture are now incapable of creating solutions to their present situation."

I've been reading Robert Bly's The Sibling Society and at the same time wondering why Ishmael had such an impact on me ten years ago. It always amazes how you can hold a question in your mind and answers to those questions pop out at you from all different kinds of sources. Take this quote out of TSS about breaking up tribal societies for instance:

            When you hear the idea of "The New Renaissance", what do you think of? What are you imagining? When I think about what Daniel Quinn's vision of humanity is, I am often stuck with the concept of what I don't want to be. I think of a tribe of capitalists holding together their capitalist ways on that sliver of land known as Manhattan. I spend time imagining space for other ways of life, but I am somewhat stumped to think of what it might be other than what I've already got to work with.

Letter from Natural Systems Blog.

Hello Bob... if the goal truly is to pass comprehensive legislation that will stand up to the best scientific evidence and analysis, then it should start with being honest with ourselves. After all, life on Earth and the future of Western industrial civilization is at stake. Although the latter must be seen as much less important than the former.

My mind is emerging into it's new paradigm and the following quotes are helping shape it :

Curt shared a great quote from Vine Deloria's "Custard Died for Your Sins"

A Rewilding Renaissance 

By Jason Godesky

In 2002, Daniel Quinn, the author of Ishmael, gave a speech he called, “The New Renaissance.” He said:

FORGET SHORTER SHOWERS: Why Personal Change Does Not Equal Political Change

By Derrick Jensen

WOULD ANY SANE PERSON think dumpster diving would have stopped Hitler, or that composting would have ended slavery or brought about the eight-hour workday, or that chopping wood and carrying water would have gotten people out of Tsarist prisons, or that dancing naked around a fire would have helped put in place the Voting Rights Act of 1957 or the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Then why now, with all the world at stake, do so many people retreat into these entirely personal “solutions”?

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